WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Apple 1:45 Mon Jan 4
Be careful what you wish for!
Let’s compare the record of Slaven Bilic in his first 20 Premier League games to Sam Allardyce’s last 20, shall we?

Points – 32 vs 16: Bilic ahead by 16.
Goals – 23 vs 15: Bilic ahead by eight.
Shots on target – 94 vs 74: Bilic ahead by 20.
Chances created – 206 vs 182: Bilic ahead by 24.

Bilic has spent less money than Allardyce did in his final season, too. Despite a string of damaging injuries, West Ham have the longest unbeaten run in the Premier League, are up to sixth in the table, have the third best record in the division against top-half teams and have completed a league double over Liverpool for the first time since 1964.

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Buster 1:46 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
But I've been told that we're worse off now than we were 12 months ago?

One McAvennieeeeee 1:48 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
I think the best thing to do would be forget about Sam Allardyce.

madeeasy 1:48 Mon Jan 4
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One McAvennieeeeee 1:48 Mon Jan 4

Lee Trundle 1:48 Mon Jan 4
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One McAvennieeeeee 1:48 Mon Jan 4

Pancho 1:49 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
The Big Sam obsessions is fucking pathetic on this site.

Absolute fucking PATHETIC!

ooooh Morley Morley 1:49 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Why compare Allardyce's worst period with Bilic?

I'm far from being an Allardyce fan but that's just stacking the odds in your favour and not a level playing field.

How does it look match for match (i.e fixtures played this season to them last season?)

I'm sure it's still much better for Bilic but that would be a more accurate comparison.

Private Dancer 1:52 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Bore the fuck off.

Mike Oxsaw 1:54 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
I wish you hadn't fucking bothered.

1964 1:55 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
4th Jan 2015
P20 W9 D5 GD+7 Pts32 7th in table

4th Jan 2016
P20 W8 D8 GD+7 Pts32 6th in table

Almost identical except we are one place higher.

So up yours Keys!

whufcroe 1:58 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Why not compare both managers first 20 games? Is it not because what you've done suits your stupid point?

Bungo 1:58 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Clearly the interesting bit is what happens over the second half of this season compared to last.

If Slav and the team can keep it up, that's when the gulf should really widen.

Sxboy_66 1:59 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Allardyce won 3 league games out of 21 from Christmas to the end of May.

Bilic has already won 2 out of 3.

Pancho 1:59 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Apple?

More like a fucking plum.

selecta 2:00 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Sam who??

Steve P 2:06 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
I think Allardyce would have done better in the second half of the season had there not been injuries to Song, Sakho, Valencia, Carroll, Reid, Collins, etc?

I don't see the point of the thread - I can't think of anyone (sane) who is campaigning that Allardyce would be a better manager for us than Bilic? Who is this aimed at, because nearly everyone who posts on here knows all of this already?

Alex V 2:07 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
>>> Bilic has spent less money than Allardyce did in his final season.

I don't think that's correct. Though how much either manager really controlled the players coming in is an open question.

Hermit Road 2:07 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
I'd have liked us to be much further ahead on the shots and chances created tally. Having said that, it's points that matter most.

Ricky Bobby 2:15 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
Slaven Bilic v José Mourinho last 20 games... I know who I would prefer at the helm.

Form is temporary

MikeHammer 2:18 Mon Jan 4
Re: Be careful what you wish for!
That will be Bilic then

andyd12345 2:32 Mon Jan 4
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Steve P 2:06 Mon Jan 4
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"Who is this aimed at, because nearly everyone who posts on here knows all of this already?"

Absolutely spot on. Who are you trying to convince?

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